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Title: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: maru on 2014-01-17, 11:42:19
I don't intend to advertise Corona's competitors but this news is just insane...

https://www.solidangle.com/arnold/try/
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2014-01-17, 11:47:12
I don't intend to advertise Corona's competitors but this news is just insane...

https://www.solidangle.com/arnold/try/

I don't find it insane... they finally have a website, that is all :) It would be insane if it launched with 3ds Max plugin as well... but it's just Maya and Softimage. Everyone knew that already :)
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: DeadClown on 2014-01-17, 11:52:23
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For permanent license sales there is a minimum order of 5. We will soon lift this restriction.

You must buy 5 seats atm to get permanent licences - that's what I call insane :D
But besides that, I don't expect a max plugin anywhere soon. Max is "just" archviz soft (ask autodesk!) and Arnold doesn't seem to be the best choice for that kind of stuff - so, no worries ;)
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: maru on 2014-01-17, 11:53:10
This means I'm late. :)

I thought Solid Angle's website always consisted only of a logo with some short info and Arnold was like a top secret project never visible to anyone. Yeah, no plugin for max, this sucks but it I'll probably download educational Maya or Softimage just to try it.
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2014-01-17, 13:03:44
Gotta say that Star Trek Into Darkness was one damn good archviz demoreel :D
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: Richy on 2014-01-17, 13:14:50
I don't intend to advertise Corona's competitors but this news is just insane...

https://www.solidangle.com/arnold/try/

I don't find it insane... they finally have a website, that is all :) It would be insane if it launched with 3ds Max plugin as well... but it's just Maya and Softimage. Everyone knew that already :)

unofficial SolidAngle Arnold for Autodesk 3ds max
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=183&t=1111777&page=1&pp=15 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=183&t=1111777&page=1&pp=15)
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2014-01-17, 13:16:53
Exporter and fully integrated plugin are two quite different things ;)
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: Juraj Talcik on 2014-01-17, 14:06:42
I think it's pretty insane as well, considering their previous marketing and bussiness form was close to excellent. The mystery and private direct communication and service.. pretty exclusive vibe, I liked that.
Title: Re: Arnol trial available for download
Post by: Ondra on 2014-01-17, 14:36:03
I think it's pretty insane as well, considering their previous marketing and bussiness form was close to excellent. The mystery and private direct communication and service.. pretty exclusive vibe, I liked that.

This is just what you think because you are not seeing the entire picture - that arnold is primarily huge film production renderer. When you have 10 potential customers, there is no need to do a web, you just send your guys over in person.
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: Juraj Talcik on 2014-01-17, 19:10:42
Isn't that bit black&white view ? They made it big in some of the largest VFX studios, but those aren't their only customers by any means. I know of 2 studios personally in Bratislava alone who have licenced it. I think in recent 2 years they've outgrown their original clientele, as illustrated by discussion on cgtalk.
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: Ondra on 2014-01-17, 19:31:59
I think in recent 2 years they've outgrown their original clientele

yes - so they made the web. I just think it was not their intent to hold off creating a web to make some sort of underground-cool-inviteonly-apple feel.
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: Juraj Talcik on 2014-01-17, 19:37:29
I think in recent 2 years they've outgrown their original clientele

yes - so they made the web. I just think it was not their intent to hold off creating a web to make some sort of underground-cool-inviteonly-apple feel.

Ah I see what you now meant [but out of those buzzwords, my hint was mostly towards exclusive as in high-end, not underground or cool, as in, small licencees will feel they
are getting much better tools/deal then they could anticipate]. No, I don't think it was the main intent at all either but they were well aware of how this is perceived and part of it was intentional,
despite Fajardo claiming in every interview it's in spite of focusing solely on existing clientele. I think I could find again some source where he mentions their
marketing strategy, which does exist, and it's not purely build upon solely delivering high-quality product, they aren't that utilitarian and it would be very short-sighted.


Anyway, browsed a bit the web, interesting to see this:

"For permanent license sales there is a minimum order of 5. We will soon lift this restriction."
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: tungee on 2014-01-18, 00:32:26
So what? The gallery of Arnold is of average quality, sorry...
Not 1 picture kicked me!
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: Ondra on 2014-01-18, 00:48:35
So what? The gallery of Arnold is of average quality, sorry...
Not 1 picture kicked me!

i dont even....
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: Polymax on 2014-01-18, 08:45:33
So what? The gallery of Arnold is of average quality, sorry...
Not 1 picture kicked me!
Arnold very very good render and very flexible, but if Corona will support things like particles, Fluid, Atmosphere effects ect... and at the same speed, it will be definitely better.
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: Javadevil on 2014-01-18, 09:51:12

You have to remember Arnold pretty much started off in the VFX industry at SONY.  I think they were first or where Marco really started turning it into a fully fledge VFX production renderer.  It was never intended for hobbist two man teams situations. Its more of the renderman solution :)
Title: Re: Arnold trial available for download
Post by: tungee on 2014-01-18, 10:22:22
They have super artists in the video i must admit, but the stills are not looking so good!
I dont like the SSS of Arnold, the Fur is not the best... But it is a complete engine, which works.....