Author Topic: Threadripper & Ryzen only builds (3rd Gen starts on page 50)  (Read 192014 times)

2020-05-12, 01:56:24
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shortcirkuit

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Hi mate

Im not expert, i did come across this article.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15483/amd-threadripper-3990x-review/3

It could be your windows


Hello Jurak,

Finally got all the pieces for my build.

3990x , 256 GB Trident Z Neo 3200, Quadro 5000, Zenith Extreme II Alpha, Noctua U14S, Sabrent rocket 2tb, latest bios and drivers.

Good temps, never goes above 68 celclius. However, when rendering in corona, I don't get sustained 100% utilization, nor boosts as high as yours, is there anything I need to configure to make the most out of the processor ?



Not talking about OC or PBO, just curious if I'm missing something.

Thanks!

2020-05-12, 10:59:23
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@lolec - what is your RAM speed and infinity fabric clock? (IF clock in BIOS)

Ideally, they should be "coupled" - e.g. in my case 3900x with 2 sticks of RAM running in dual mode at 3600 MHz and IF clock set to the default of 1800 MHz. 

Oh and you can also check enabling different power plans in Windows. Download and install Ryzen Master, and then activate the AMD Ryzen High Performance plan.

2020-05-12, 21:33:12
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Hi,

After several tests it appears as well described Juraj that the processor boost varies a lot depending on the scenes. On some scenes, I am at 3.4 MHz while on others I can reach 3.8 MHz at 100% processor usage. There is therefore absolutely nothing to set manually in AMD Ryzen MAster or others, it is the processor which acts automatically.

2020-05-14, 17:15:43
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Hey guys,

I need a little bit of help/advice here. One thing I somehow successfully managed to ignore till now (4 months ownership), is the PCH/chipset temperature ..  Specifically it's on Asus ROG strix TRX40-E Motherboard.
I guess the problem might have started with the mounting of the new GPU few weeks back, which is huge, and it practically covers the chipset altogether with its fan..
Problem is, I have basically no other slot to move gpu into, as the top one is too close to cpu heatsinks and probably won't even fit there, the bottom one is then too close to PSU, and there would be no airflow into GPU itself, also I would have to sacrifice case power connections..  So I am basically left with this middle one only..

If anyone could check, what are the temperature readings idle/load on your chipsets? I've checked both bios and hwinfo ones, and the temperatures seem higher than they should.. practically 70+ on idle, and over 93 when I put GPU on a stress test.. fan is doing 4700rpm which sounds like too much..
Can this be dangerous for the mb in the longrun? Is it flaw in the design of the motherboard or do you think there might be something wrong with my MB, and would apply for a warranty replacement?

Please share your opinions, thank you :)!

//UPDATE: Ok, I've managed to solve this by actually moving the gpu to the top slot, which fitted by few milimeters.. This reduced the PCH/Chipset temps by almost 20 degrees under the load, which is now under 80C after half-hour of GPU stress testing.. Uff, a little bit of a relief here.. Weird how they designed this, as the MB is practically usable only with 1 GPU fitted at top slot - if you dont want to risk overheating of the chipset..  Anyway, I'll leave this here as it may help some other people with similar issue.
« Last Edit: 2020-05-15, 09:20:57 by David Males »

2020-05-18, 20:39:44
Reply #1129

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@lolec - what is your RAM speed and infinity fabric clock? (IF clock in BIOS)

Ideally, they should be "coupled" - e.g. in my case 3900x with 2 sticks of RAM running in dual mode at 3600 MHz and IF clock set to the default of 1800 MHz. 

Oh and you can also check enabling different power plans in Windows. Download and install Ryzen Master, and then activate the AMD Ryzen High Performance plan.

In power plans I can see just the AMD Ryzen Balanced. How can I activate the High Performance one?
Thanks.

2020-05-21, 10:20:00
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hi all

got my new rig which is a 3970x with 128 gig ram and  a noctua NH-u14S - just doing some interactive rendering to check temps and it hovers from 75-83.  Idle is around 60ish.
Is this all normal?  Kinda feels like holding a newborn baby i dont want to hurt it.

2020-05-21, 18:43:17
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@shortcirkuit

The temperatures that you report are pretty much in line with what other people have here on the forum with the 3970x and the U14S. What is your ambient temperature you haven't reported that? Also what case are you using?
My temps on the 3970x are 73C after a few Corona bench runs but my ambient is 24C or even above. I am using a custom water loop. I am pretty sure that in order to have lower temps you would need a custom loop the 3970x is sadly a hotter chip than the 3990x.

2020-05-23, 23:09:47
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Building another TRX40 system.  Specs below.  I'm pretty excited for the 3990x to see how it compares to my 3970x :)

3990x
(2) 1TB Samsung Evo NVME drives
Seasonic Prime 1300W Gold
128gb (4 x 32) Trident Neo @ 3200 16-18-18-38
Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha
Fractal Define 7 (not XL)
Asus 2080 Ti blower that I already had (since I have given up on GPU rendering)
Noctua 14s SP3 as always

All parts already ordered but please let me know if I did anything stupid.  I really love my Aorus xTreme mobo but the XL-ATX layout made me go for a giant Be Quiet case that I wish was smaller.  So I'm looking forward to a more compact build with Asus's E-ATX format.  And who knows, maybe I'll like the Alpha as well or better.  The priority for me was power delivery and ethernet (10gbe).

Also got one of the BenQ's that Juraj has recommended in the past so I'll be stoked to try that, we have been Dell previously.

2020-05-28, 18:29:51
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Elias2019

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hi all

got my new rig which is a 3970x with 128 gig ram and  a noctua NH-u14S - just doing some interactive rendering to check temps and it hovers from 75-83.  Idle is around 60ish.
Is this all normal?  Kinda feels like holding a newborn baby i dont want to hurt it.

Exactly the same for me here of course while doing interactive rendering, around 65 for idle. It's my question as well, is it normal?

2020-05-28, 20:27:12
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danio1011

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hi all

got my new rig which is a 3970x with 128 gig ram and  a noctua NH-u14S - just doing some interactive rendering to check temps and it hovers from 75-83.  Idle is around 60ish.
Is this all normal?  Kinda feels like holding a newborn baby i dont want to hurt it.

Exactly the same for me here of course while doing interactive rendering, around 65 for idle. It's my question as well, is it normal?

My 3970x is around that too and has been fine for a few months now.  My understanding is it runs a fair bit hotter than the 3990x.

2020-05-29, 11:34:35
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Hi guys!

I need your advice. We have a 2990wx in the office, that likes to freeze almost every day. I understand that TR's are moody with some types of memory.
 Do you guys have any recommendations for a specific type of memory that can make the system stable?

here is what we have now

TR 2990WX
Asus ROG ZENITH EXTREME ALPHA
Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB
DDR4 3000MHz CL15

thanks!

2020-05-29, 12:48:39
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Hi guys!

I need your advice. We have a 2990wx in the office, that likes to freeze almost every day. I understand that TR's are moody with some types of memory.
 Do you guys have any recommendations for a specific type of memory that can make the system stable?

here is what we have now

TR 2990WX
Asus ROG ZENITH EXTREME ALPHA
Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB
DDR4 3000MHz CL15

thanks!

It could be either unstable RAM, the motherboard VRM's overheating or the PSU's over-current protection kicking in.

To test I would massively down-clock the RAM in the bios first to something like 2333mhz, perform a long render and see if the system still crashes. I would also monitor your motherboard's VRM temps with a tool like HWinfo - I had a 2990wx system with the Zenith Extreme where the VRM's would hit 115c in minutes of rendering and would down-clock the CPU like crazy. I also could not get the 128gb of GSkill RAM stable at anything over 2933mhz, I promptly sent that system back. AFAIK the MSI Meg was the only x399 motherboard capable of dealing with the massive power draw of the 2990wx, but I see the Zenith Extreme Alpha looks to have a beefier VRM setup/cooling so difficult to say what exactly the problem might be without separate testing.

I'm now on a water cooled 3970x with a Gigabyte Designare motherboard, 128gb GSkill RAM @ 3600mhz and it's been completely flawless.
« Last Edit: 2020-05-29, 12:52:59 by agentdark45 »
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2020-05-30, 16:02:19
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Jacinto Monteiro

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Hello guys, we use dual Xeons here for the past years and we stopped investing for quite some time. I am personally a bit off the hardware news.
We want buy a new workstation soon. This topic is amazing and makes us think that AMD is a reliable and cheaper solution for corona rendering? We have a max of 5000euros to invest (for everything.. MB, RAM, SDD, GPU...). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Jacinto.
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2020-05-31, 12:19:25
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Thanks agentdark45 !

I will try to do the low clock ram test.  To give you more info the full specs are:


TR 2990WX
Asus ROG ZENITH EXTREME ALPHA
GTX 1080Ti
Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB
DDR4 3000MHz CL15
Cooler Enermax LiqTech TR4 II RGB 360
SSD Samsung 860 EVO
Seasonic Prime 1300W Platinum
Thermaltake A500 Aluminum case

I usually find it frozen after more hours of rendering but often it is working while rendering, but once we stop the render it goes into this half dead state where we could click certain buttons like the win start button but nothing else (restart, task manager, max are not responding). We also have to dual xeons in the same office that never freeze like this even though software/scenes are the same an all.



« Last Edit: 2020-05-31, 12:36:16 by octavtirziu »

2020-05-31, 15:28:23
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Thanks agentdark45 !

I will try to do the low clock ram test.  To give you more info the full specs are:


TR 2990WX
Asus ROG ZENITH EXTREME ALPHA
GTX 1080Ti
Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB
DDR4 3000MHz CL15
Cooler Enermax LiqTech TR4 II RGB 360
SSD Samsung 860 EVO
Seasonic Prime 1300W Platinum
Thermaltake A500 Aluminum case

I usually find it frozen after more hours of rendering but often it is working while rendering, but once we stop the render it goes into this half dead state where we could click certain buttons like the win start button but nothing else (restart, task manager, max are not responding). We also have to dual xeons in the same office that never freeze like this even though software/scenes are the same an all.

No probs man, yeah the 2990wx was a notoriously finicky CPU - it was way ahead of it's time and there were a lot of compatibility issues (especially with RAM). I would also be extremely cautious with that LiqTech AIO - almost every one of them had issues and gunked up over time (causing the CPU to overheat).
Vray who?