Author Topic: Threadripper Builds  (Read 135589 times)

2019-01-06, 11:54:57
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https://www.hardocp.com/news/2019/01/03/amd_ryzen_threadripper_2990wx_performance_regressions_linked_to_windows_bug

https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/

For slovak / czech speakers https://www.svethardware.cz/chaby-vykon-threadripperu-2990wx-byl-identifikovan-jako-dusledek-chyby-v-kernelu-windows/48337

Seems to slow down Corona benchmark by 2 seconds for me. Doesn't appear to have any impact on Vray benchmark. May still be a good idea to run, either way, to ensure that dynamic local mode is running as a permanent service. For 7-zip there is apparently some benefit.



Anyone else loses a second or two with corona bench?

Corona benchmark is same for me but in cinebench i gained like 100-150 points.
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2019-01-26, 02:40:20
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How did someone get 37 secs bench time.  I have a 2990wx or to 4.0 with 32 go ram and I had a score of 1:12. What am I doing wrong?

2019-01-26, 02:41:57
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How did someone get 37 secs bench time.  I have a 2990wx or to 4.0 with 32 go ram and I had a score of 1:12. What am I doing wrong?


I can get 37-39 seconds at 3.8ghz...3200 on memory.

You got 4 DIMM's??? Running quad channel memory? I noticed in my initial testing during the build that having 4 DIMMs (i.e. running quad channel) made a huge difference... Also ram speed makes a difference. Even going from 3200 to 3400 I got a second or two improvement, but can't get anything over 3200 stable.
« Last Edit: 2019-01-26, 02:46:19 by philipb »

2019-02-07, 14:29:16
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How did someone get 37 secs bench time.  I have a 2990wx or to 4.0 with 32 go ram and I had a score of 1:12. What am I doing wrong?

Post your pc specs here
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2019-02-11, 10:03:10
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Got solved in other thread, guy bought slow memory :- ) Fixed it by changing that.

In other news, for MSI MEG users, the file from 1Usmus (1.31Mod) is apparently going to become the stable official release file. I didn't test yet, will be doing systems updates soon.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/27779864-post496.html
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2019-02-12, 11:41:37
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Does CL matter here?
With the same money I can buy:
G.SKILL TRIDENTZ 64GB (4X16GB) DDR4 3200MHZ (F43200C14Q64GTZ)
or
G.SKILL TRIDENT Z RGB 64GB DDR4 (F43600C17Q64GTZR)

I'm going to run it on MSI MEG and only first one are on msi supported hw page so thinking about them.
« Last Edit: 2019-02-12, 11:50:30 by jalapeno »

2019-02-12, 12:18:36
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So i think i'm at a point with my prospective spec i'm happy with.
Anyone seeing any issues or bottlenecks? Id maybe look at faster ram if the price wasn't too much of an increase.


RM850X PSU
Samsung Evo 970 500GB boot drive
64GB Corsair Vengeance 2666mhz RAM
Threadripper 2990wx
Enermax Liqtech TR4 360mm
AORUS X399 Xtreme
RTX 2070
Fractal define R6 Case + 3x additional 140mm fans

2019-02-12, 12:34:06
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Juraj Talcik

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Does CL matter here?
With the same money I can buy:
G.SKILL TRIDENTZ 64GB (4X16GB) DDR4 3200MHZ (F43200C14Q64GTZ)
or
G.SKILL TRIDENT Z RGB 64GB DDR4 (F43600C17Q64GTZR)

I'm going to run it on MSI MEG and only first one are on msi supported hw page so thinking about them.

Both denote the overall speed of memory, so when it comes to CL14 @3000 vs CL16 @3000, the former is better but won't make drastic difference on Threadripper.
With that said, you won't be able to run more than 3200Mhz @4x16GB capacity on 2990WX, it's simply not stable even with the latest AGESA update. Maybe in future, but not worth the time/risk and additional money on diminishing returns.
There isn't much to be gained after 2933.

Get the cheapest CL14-15 @2933(3000) memory you can get at 4x16GB capacity and instead either save your money or buy more memory.

So i think i'm at a point with my prospective spec i'm happy with.
Anyone seeing any issues or bottlenecks? Id maybe look at faster ram if the price wasn't too much of an increase.

64GB Corsair Vengeance 2666mhz RAM


Likewise, do get 2933MHz (3000), don't go lower ;- ).
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2019-02-12, 13:03:18
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Likewise, do get 2933MHz (3000), don't go lower ;-).

Corsair do have 3000mhz RAM in the vengeance range i think.

2019-02-12, 13:21:58
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Likewise, do get 2933MHz (3000), don't go lower ;-).

Corsair do have 3000mhz RAM in the vengeance range i think.

Yup, I run Vengeance myself on 2990WX. There are billion revisions of it, and only some of them might have made it onto QVL lists, but that doesn't mean others won't work. Sometimes new revisions comes almost every few months. If you happen to buy memory that won't run which should be rare with the latest AGESA updates (always run bios update before confirming full compatibility, most boards can run them automatically from USB key).

Whether you buy one denoted as 2933 or 3000 is the very same hardware just different package marketing, both will run at 2933 on Threadripper.
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2019-02-12, 13:46:37
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Likewise, do get 2933MHz (3000), don't go lower ;-).

Corsair do have 3000mhz RAM in the vengeance range i think.

Yup, I run Vengeance myself on 2990WX. There are billion revisions of it, and only some of them might have made it onto QVL lists, but that doesn't mean others won't work. Sometimes new revisions comes almost every few months. If you happen to buy memory that won't run which should be rare with the latest AGESA updates (always run bios update before confirming full compatibility, most boards can run them automatically from USB key).

Whether you buy one denoted as 2933 or 3000 is the very same hardware just different package marketing, both will run at 2933 on Threadripper.

Good to know thank you

2019-02-12, 19:03:25
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So i think i'm at a point with my prospective spec i'm happy with.
Anyone seeing any issues or bottlenecks? Id maybe look at faster ram if the price wasn't too much of an increase.


RM850X PSU
Samsung Evo 970 500GB boot drive
64GB Corsair Vengeance 2666mhz RAM
Threadripper 2990wx
Enermax Liqtech TR4 360mm
AORUS X399 Xtreme
RTX 2070
Fractal define R6 Case + 3x additional 140mm fans

1) Isn't 850W cutting it close for a 2990WX build???

The processor can draw 500W, add the GPU and other stuff and you must be pushing 800W or close already.  If you ever plan on adding a second GPU or anything you may not have enough juice. But then it all depends on if you are overclocking, which you should be for sure with the Enermax. I'm happy with the new Enermax revision, it can do consistent 3.8ghz with PBO @ 475W or so.

2) Also, this video scared me off the Aorus...

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3) Ram speed does make a difference...if you can get faster ram then do.

2019-02-13, 09:32:39
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If you still have doubts with choosing motherboard check this. Test results are at 10:27

2019-02-13, 14:41:48
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Hello all,
I'm little bit confused about the choice of the motherboard, as in the video we can see that the ASUS zenith xtreme got better VRM temps than the AOrus Xtreme x399,the MSI MEG X399 si the best but i'm going to build a GPU/CPU rendering workstation so i need a quad GPU Motherboard,do you have an idea about which one is better for a little bit OC of the 2990wx with good vrm temps ? AORUS XTREME or Zenith Xtreme ?

Also one question i'm using a lot of Corona and gonna use C4D Octane also, it need a lot of single core speed,so i have a question what is the speed of the 2990wx compared to the 2950x in a legacy mode of 1/2 ? i did researchs but i did not understand it.

Comming build : ( 2990WX- ASUS XT REME X399 or AORUS Xtreme X399-Ram 64 GB 4*16GB PREDATOR GSKILL 3000 MHZ- PSU Crosair AX 1600W- RTX 2080TI ASUS TURBO BLOWER EDITION-Noctua NH 14S for now )
Thank you
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2019-02-13, 19:04:54
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Aorus is clear winner against Zenith (vanilla version, as there is now also Zenith Alpha but it doesn't fit 4 GPUs for the same reasons MSI MEG doesn't, the VRM mosfets push the real estate away and it wouldn't fit into E-ATX format).

Aorus has better VRM and that is more important, you need to actively cool both with good air flow or hack some fan solution on top.

It's incredibly poor state of affairs that MSI MEG and ZENITH ALPHA didn't go for SSI board format as the E-ATX ended up crippling their GPU capability.
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